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I hate to call books "brave" because that often feels patronizing. However, this book continued to surprise me until the last page. Kyr's narrow view of her world was such a perfect restriction and felt so realistic for the situation she's in. She's a little brainwashed fascist being forced to see that her worldview isn't accurate, down to her perspective on the people she loves most. Absolutely lovely book all around.
The premise of Some Desperate Glory intrigued me, and I had hoped it would live up to the hype. The story felt like it fit the YA genre with how it dealt with issues (way to simplistic/basic). And if it was actually marketed for YA, then I would have less issues with how the author dealt with race/gender/fascism. That alone turned me off. There's a seen later on in the story where I had a wtf moment, ‘did she really just do/ask that?' So. I feel like folks in different age groups and maturity will definitely comprehend this story a bit differently. This just had too many cringe moments for me.
What I did enjoy the world building and space odyssey feel. I liked the actual plot of the story, but there was just too much in the questionable actions of the MC and how the author handled it.
Disclaimer I received a copy of this book from the publisher.
2.5 stars
Graphic description of suicide
While there is a trigger warning for suicide at the beginning of the book I was wholly unprepared to experience the MCs brother committing suicide right in front of her. This is no fault to the author as they did their due diligence with their tw list
Let this be my sign to not take goodreads ratings and reviews seriously. Or book covers. The cover of this book is an absolute travesty. Honestly, its title too.
It's not terrible. It just did not come close enough to the depth of this book. Something abstract would've been better, I think. I don't care now. But I judged it before. I only picked it up because it won the Hugo. And I thought, huh, I thought this was a random space opera, there must be something else here.
And by god, there was something. I remember being hooked at 30%. I remember at 54% thinking holy shit holy fucking shit.
Because this book is unreal. This book made me question everything. There was depth, and complexity, and so much character growth.
There is so much in this book. If you're thinking about reading it, please do so immediately.
Thank you, Emily Tesh. Honestly, seriously, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for this book's existence.
Victory or death.
Emily Tesh’s Some Desperate Glory is a profound exploration of vengeance, indoctrination, and the struggle to break free from control. Set in a future where Earth has been destroyed, the novel follows Kyr, a young woman raised on Gaea Station, a militant outpost obsessed with retribution against the majoda, the alien alliance they blame for the planet's annihilation. Trained since birth to believe in the righteousness of her cause, Kyr never questions her purpose—until she is forced to confront the truth about what her people have become.
At its core, Some Desperate Glory examines the cost of revenge, the difficulty of unlearning deeply ingrained beliefs and the dangers of a society built on manipulation and control. Gaea Station’s rigid hierarchy and blind loyalty turn its people into both victims and perpetrators, with every horror excused as necessity and every cruelty reframed as duty. Those in power seek to mold their people into unquestioning followers, using hate and war as tools to enforce obedience. Its leaders don’t just demand loyalty—they manufacture it, teaching their people to hate so they will never turn their anger inward. Kyr embodies this system—single-minded, self-righteous, and unwilling to see beyond what she has been taught. Her journey is not just one of rebellion but of dismantling the conditioning that has shaped her worldview.
Central to this unraveling is the majoda, long painted as inhuman oppressors. Their existence challenges everything Kyr has been led to believe: if the enemy is not a monster, then what was she fighting for? And if revenge is not the answer, what is left?
Tesh’s storytelling is both intimate and expansive, blending thrilling plot twists with deep emotional reckoning. Kyr is not an easy protagonist—harsh, judgmental, and steeped in ideology—but her transformation is gripping. The novel does not offer easy absolution. Change is painful, messy, and filled with resistance, as real growth always is.
Ultimately, Some Desperate Glory asks whether breaking free—not just from a cycle of violence and the past, but from the systems that sustain it—is possible. Forgiveness is hard, and escaping a cycle requires more than just recognizing the problem—it demands courage, self-reflection, and the willingness to build something new instead of destroying what exists. A haunting, thought-provoking novel, it forces both its characters and readers to confront the consequences of blind obedience, the cost of revenge, and the possibility of choosing a different path—one that redefines survival not as endurance, but as something worth living for.
This book shattered me and immediately earned a place among my favorites. It felt deeply personal—so many of the questions it raises are ones I’ve grappled with for a long time, without finding clear answers. The novel’s emotional depth, unflinching exploration of difficult themes, and gripping character journey made it impossible to put down—and even harder to forget.
This was a hands-down spectacular read. It had a unique protagonist, a very propelling plot, a clever and cool world, and it was just non-stop engaging. This is definitely going to be a top read of 2024 for me.
Besides it being an exciting Space Opera-style adventure, it also did what all great sci-fi does and really forced us to reflect on ourselves and our society. To what extent are you who you choose to be, and to what extent are you the product of the world that made you? That's probably the central question explored in this, but it's also much more than that.
I heard in the Sword and Laser book club that many people found the main character hard to put up with, mostly because she is a very difficult character to like. Personally though, I love investigating villains and "bad people" because so often there's more to them than just their bad ideas or detestable attitude, and this story really explores that very idea in a powerful way.
I would actually recommend this book to anyone who's not immediately turned off by the idea of futuristic stories, including young people. It's exciting, provocative, gripping, and just an amazing story. But it also sneeks in examinations of governmental systems of military populism and the way propoganda can infect communities, from people willing to go all in, to conscientious objectors, and the surprising commonalities beneath them all. I think it speaks volumes that the author was a Greek scholar who largely modelled the society on Sparta. Somehow though, it seems to relate incredibly well to the state of governments today as well.
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I ended up pretty mixed on this one. At first, I was really bored. The lawful neutral protagonist who can't get a clue in a dystopia that just didn't make any sense. <spoiler>You want the human race to survive by both training women for war and also relegating them to a breeding harem? And you are controlled breeding people but also have sex as much as you want with the concubines but being gay is not ok? I see the inspiration in other controlled societies, but this one seemed like it shouldn't have lasted 2 years, especially with a leader as lacking in charisma or skills as Jole. </spoiler>
It feels like the message of the book is a good one, but for me that message superseded the actual writing, and made the story as a whole fall a bit flat for me. It still won the Hugo, and while it wouldn't have been my pick, I see why it got the nomination. The aliens are good, the plot once you're off of Gaea station is intriuging, and the pace is sharp. As a rule though, I just kept coming back to the fact that I didn't really enjoy spending time with any of the characters, and that this was one of the dumber dystopias out there, built more to highlight reality's flaws than because it makes sense for the world-building.
So yeah, I'm going with 4 stars because it was better than a lot of things I give three stars, but overall kind of meh.
This was the September read for the Sword and Laser podcast. The book opens with our protagonist as one of the few humans left after aliens destroy the Earth. She lives on a small space station with a community of other humans who are determined to have revenge. This is one of those stories where you are dropped into the middle of action, and need to learn as you go along. I think the author uses this style particularly well, as you learn more about the world both through the author and also through the eyes and experiences of our protagonist.
This book explores ideas around brainwashing, radicalization and fascism in a way that is surprisingly enjoyable and fun to read. Initially our narrator is both unreliable and somewhat unlikeable, but just give her a chance to grow on you. Also think about reading this if you're a fan of parallel universes, time travel, and/or artificial intelligence.
When I read the review that this book makes you cry ugly tears I did not believe. You know, reviewers exaggerate. And then I got to that scene in the middle of the novel. And I threw down the book and said, "I hate this book", and went to my bed and cried. So it is not false advertising. This book hurts you. And although I have a lot of empathy for Kyr at the beginning because of the situation she is in from birth, she really is the worst person ever. And then at the end you are cheering for her, because she has that kind of long character arc. Books don't make me feel this up and down every day. So, I didn't always like it, but at the end I liked it.
The storyline is well written, it keeps moving and the author doesn't wander down non-essential paths, but it doesn't grab my interest.
Too much young adult angst and plots that are way too predicable for my taste.
I went with audio for this, and I’ll tell you, Sena Bryer knocked it out of the park for me. Some really good and completely different voices in here.
This is an interesting concept. Earth was lost, and those on Gaea are raised to train with only one thing in mind, revenge. It’s an endless war. But when the main character, Kyr finds out that her brother has gone “rogue” and that she has been sentenced to work in the nursery, a near death sentence regardless of her being a top solider, things start to become a little clearer.
This is almost like an Inception-y, Time Travel creating changes like in Loki, multiversal kind of mixture that had a great pace to it. Can the past change the future if it’s the one that already exists? The twists are present, and they’re interesting, I just kind of felt like maybe the execution was a tad off. I found things that I thought were cool or interesting, but felt like they didn’t exactly pan out, and I wasn’t as engaged as I should have been.
The idea of the nursery as a whole, a set of selected women that were chosen for life to birth the next generation of humans, could have been set up to make a hell of a statement…but it kind of just is what it is—lacking commentary? Even in the future, during an all-out war for survival, even while being the top marks solider out of all the women, you can still be seen as just a womb. And while that is kind of what it’s saying it also felt kind of flat, like they didn’t try to really get the point across. It also kind of felt off putting to me that Kyr’s brother, the large and muscly super solider was weird and different, and the way that it was played off was that he was different simply because he was gay? At least that’s how it feels. It needed to be deeper, or to not be there at all for me.
The other main issue I had, was that many, if not most, of the characters are just genuinely unlikable. It’s hard to be truly surprised, heartened, or heart broken with the twists when you don’t feel enough for those it’s happening too. So while there were things that kept me going, kept me listening on to the end, I just feel kind of somewhere in the middle on this one.
The first half is a little tropey, but does at least play around with The Chosen One trope by making them an asshole. Things pick up considerably when the story escapes the confines of the "school", and there is a very good, hard-left turn when the twist kicks in. Afterwards, it plays around with things in an interesting way, but does somewhat fall back into its credulity-stretching, tropey ways towards the end. Good in a lot of places; just OK in others.
I don't really know how to feel about this one, but definitely one of my least favorite sci-fi's I've ever read. I thought it was okay, but lean towards pretty vs. below par.
4.5 / 5 stars.
This one was a really fun read! There's a lot of character development and a couple of plot twists so I was hooked on the story and zoomed through this one. It definitely gives some YA sci-fi vibes though.
This is listed as an adult book but reads much more like a YA. It's very plot/dialog heavy and doesn't have especially complex characters (though there is some amount of character development, primarily for the protagonist). The primary antagonist is very much a “kitchen sink” villain (they do everything bad you can think of, and more besides), which adds to the YA feel. It does have some exciting plot twists and is a pretty easy read in general, although it probably could have been trimmed a bit. Overall it was a fun read but it's not really something that I'm going to remember by next year.
There is some very minimal romance in the book. It kind of feels like it was forced in to check a box since it's otherwise irrelevant to the plot and takes up all of two pages. Probably would have been better to just leave it out at that point.
Comments on the ending:
The ending was portrayed as fairly positive/upbeat, like yay we saved the entirety of the station. But wait, the 14 billion humans of Earth are still dead in this timeline. Isn't that, like, pretty sad still? Are we really supposed to believe that the omnipotent "Wisdom" couldn't think of a single way to avoid that? It seems like only two things were even tried. That aspect wouldn't bother me as much if the ending was given as more of a negative one, but it's very chipper and lighthearted.
Woooo this was such a good book. Loved the concept and the execution! And I liked so many characters.
Wow wow wow, one of my favorite (if not favorite) books of the year. Emily Tesh made me feel like I was reading sci fi for the first time. What an immense experience that caused me considerable distress.
Kyr is a teenage girl who's grown up in a hobbled together space community called Gaea Station. Gaea's leadership insists its militant community are the sole remnants of humanity, dedicated to retribution after aliens destroyed Earth.
Kyr, her brother Mags, and the group of girls she was raised alongside are all awaiting assignments. Each year, some of the girls are assigned to Nursery, where they will give birth to and take care of babies and small children. Don't think about it too much; Kyr doesn't. Mostly because she is secure in the knowledge that she would never be assigned to Nursery. Until she is.
It's hard to summarize the plot from there, both because so much happens and because I think it's better to not know about it in advance. But I want it on record that I adore Kyr. I adored her from the beginning. She reminds me of my past self in many ways: sheltered, naïve, earnest, and insufferably judgmental and severe about things she does not (and will not let herself try to) understand. I am as devoted to Kyr as first act Kyr is to Gaea. This is a Zuko level redemption arc.
This absolutely wild, hopeful, painful ride is full of lots of impactful but not hamfisted messages about deprogramming radical views, righteous anger, collective power, bodily autonomy, queerness, and what it means to build a better world after being indoctrinated into seeing the opposite as inevitable. I know it's long and it may rip your heart out but can you all still read it so we can talk about it? Please and thank you.
What happens if the AI that runs the galaxy determines that your world would upend the permanent harmony enjoyed everywhere and Earth needs to be expunged?
It's an excellent idea, and I enjoyed the rebel army fighting-for-a-cause-against-impossible-odds angle the book mainly sets itself in. But as David Mitchell said, “Are we the baddies?”
It got a little lost with alternate realities in the middle but brought it all back again with an exciting roller coaster end.
This book has given me a lot of mixed emotions. I almost DNFed it at the beginning because the protagonist, Valkyr or Kyr as she's not-so-affectionately known by her teammates, was so so so intolerable and annoying. It was only because I put it down and read another book that annoyed me even more that I eventually went back and finished this. Indeed, Kyr remained unlikeable and annoying for at least the first half of the book. Almost every other character was more interesting and easier to listen to on page than Kyr was.
I mean, I get that there was a reason for Kyr's unlikeability, and it makes her overall character arc/development more satisfying. But I also kinda wish that the annoying parts weren't quite so long as half the book, or that we got more of a hook, something to keep us hanging on to the hope that Kyr's going to get better at the end. When she was annoying, she was really annoying. A whole lot more annoying than Avicenna was, and he's supposed to be the most annoying person on the whole ship.
The book kinda sorta improved after that halfway mark, I guess? Until then I thought the book was moving along in a very predictable sort of fashion, and a lot of my guesses sort of came true. Until they didn't. And then they really didn't.
The second half of the book was a really wild ride. The concepts that they're using isn't incredibly new but there's still something inexplicably fresh about some of the corners of world-building here. Even now that I've finished it, I still can't 100% tell you what exactly happened because I'm just as lost. Sometimes I'm not even sure if Tesh knew fully the details of what was going on either. Nevertheless, it was all right in the way it played out. Not incredibly mind-blowing in the end, but also not unsatisfying.
Spoilery thoughts about the ending: I thought Jole's death was such an anti-climax. After all that, they didn't even have a proper showdown? But I appreciated the foreshadowing and how Jole's death mirrored that of the soldier Kyr thought about when she first went down to the core with Avi in the earlier parts of the book. I thought it was Magnus deserved more character development, but with so much time jumps in the book, it's really only Kyr that gets all the development since everyone else pretty much starts anew whenever the Wisdom reset her to another moment in history. I thought the ending dragged on a bit too.
You're almost certainly familiar with Kahneman's and Fredrickson's wonderful ice-water experiment (“When More Pain is Preferred to Less”, also called the peak-end rule), the one where victisubjects opted for a longer (90s vs 60s) painful experience if the last few seconds were less painful. I love that result. I've found it invaluable for reframing life situations.
This is a 436-page book, of which the first 220 or so pages are excruciating. Oh, how I wanted to toss it away! But I was encouraged to stick with it. I did. And I'm glad.
Halfway through, it took an interesting twist, and yes it was foreshadowed but no, not the directions it took after the midpoint. That was thoughtful, creative, nuanced, suspenseful, engaging, and even sweet; and it just kept getting better. A whole lot of Did Not See That Coming, even when you think you see what's coming, and damn, I really loved it. Solid 4.5 stars, but rounding down because even with all that praise it was still objectively heavyhanded (I know, it's YA, I should be more forgiving); because of the eyeroll-worthy dei ex machina and other wildly convenient coincidences; and finally because I can't objectively be sure if the last half was truly-actually good or if I was swayed by the peak-end rule. What I can say is, I'm really glad to have read this and can highly, highly recommend it but only to those who promise to persevere through the first half. Tesh took a big risk in writing the book that way, and I'm sure it cost her sales and readers. If she decides to go for the adult reader market, I'm looking forward to seeing her future work.
CW: contains sexist, homophobic, transphobic, racist & ableist attitudes, sexual assault including discussion of forced pregnancy, violence, child abuse, radicalisation as child abuse, genocide, suicidal ideation, and suicide (this info is from the author)
Probably a 3.5 and I'm rounding up to 4 but I'm not totally convinced.
I haven't read the author's previous novella duology but I've been very curious and eager to get to this book since I first saw the announcement. So I was definitely very excited when I got the audiobook from the publisher. Now, it did take me days to finish this but if it was the usual times, I could have probably done with it in a single sitting or two but my health these days doesn't let me focus for too long, so it took a little while. While I'm still unsure of the rating I've given, it was overall an enjoyable book.
I think I'm gonna have to talk randomly in this review instead of my usual organized style because my thoughts about this book feel very disjointed. Firstly, it's an easy and accessible read, something I usually wouldn't associate with an adult sci-fi novel, so maybe it was aimed at having more YA crossover appeal. The sciency aspects of it are treated more like a mysterious magic system in a fantasy world - there's a lot of “winging it” going on, not much explanation, but we kind of get what's happening - so it'll definitely work for a reader like me who isn't too much into hard sci-fi. There are a couple of twists - particularly the one at the halfway mark which was very surprising and kept me eagerly going - but otherwise the plot kind of moves in a predictable fashion. There are also multiple moments which feel like dues ex machina, but I will try to talk about it more in detail in the next paragraphs. If you don't want to read more of my thoughts about the themes (I'll try to avoid spoilers), you can probably stop reading my review now. My conclusion here would be it's an engaging enough sci-fi book if you go in with the right expectations, with some great action sequences but hand wavy science, and overall a simplistically written story.
Coming to what I'm still ruminating about. I had huge expectations from this book. The marketing of it as “queer space opera” was very enticing, the premise also felt very intriguing, and Shelley's blurb was very tempting, leading me to expect something much more explosive. Which this book is admittedly not. I also knew that the book had themes like racism, homophobia, transphobia, gender essentialism and more and am usually highly interested in checking out books with these themes and see how they are explored, which is where I think this book faltered.
I like the ambition of the author to want to tackle these issues. The setting of this story on a futuristic spaceship which is run more like fascist death cult, brainwashing children into believing the roles they are groomed for, bent on revenge against the alien species majoda for the destruction of earth - is actually very conducive for exploring the various themes in detail - but there are many limiting factors that come into play. The fact that it's a standalone book means the author needs to cram everything into less than 500 pages; which leads to a lot less nuance for each theme and more superficiality; we also only get to follow one POV (except for a few interludes which were excerpts from books or articles about humanity and were quite fun to read) and reading the whole story from the pov of one young brainwashed girl limits the scope a lot, because we are forced to see the world only through her small imagination. It was definitely worth it to see Kyr go from a completely believing in her destiny, brainwashed fascist bully to someone who slowly understands when the lies are peeled off, comes to terms with the fact that the foundation of her life was a lie, and decides to do something about it. But because we don't get the perspectives of anyone else, they all essentially become vessels to educate her about the lies and show the ugly truth. If I think even a bit deeply, it was actually hilarious that every other character in Kyr's orbit seems to realize that they are living in a death cult and what they are being taught is wrong, except Kyr who thinks it is her life's duty to avenge the lives of 14 billion souls lost on earth despite not even being born at the time of the destruction.
Gender essentialism and women being forced to bear children (or technically just male soldiers) is very much a core one philosophy of this cult and we as readers can feel it underneath the plot, but the way Kyr realizes that truth is very sudden and I felt there was not enough depth or reflection about something so important. There is one token character of color who understands she is the token, can see the racism and the forced homogeneity in the breeding techniques in their cult, but ofcourse she has to bear the burden of opening Kyr's eyes to this. Even the fact that homophobia is wrong is something she has to realize due to dire personal circumstances, because otherwise she is homophobic herself and even her queer awakening felt not enough. I liked Kyr's growth but I think the impact of the story would have been better if we could have seen how the other characters were much more thoughtful than her and didn't fall for the propaganda completely.
As my friend Celeste has explained very well in her review, the other major themes of the book are revenge and the presence of an omnipotent/omniscient AI called wisdom. I liked the fact that we see Kyr grow out of her revenge craving xenophobic mindset to someone more compassionate and thoughtful, and we get to ruminate about who is worth saving and who is not and who gets to decide when one is in life and death circumstances. I liked that after some introspection by Kyr, we get to see more of the realization that sacrificing one's life for a higher purpose isn't always a good thing, sometimes just being alive is important, and violence and killing is really not justified in most circumstances and definitely not on a mass scale. Some of the deaths felt really impactful due to the fact that they really were a waste, but then the impact was lost because of the dues ex machina, namely the AI Wisdom.
The book definitely tries to make the point that even an omnipotent AI whose purpose to make a decision based on the best possible outcome for most beings, is not really a good thing. And I agree wholeheartedly with that point. Whether it's humans or in this book world, the various alien species, it's imperative that everyone gets to make a choice about their futures and not delegate it to a godlike AI (or maybe even powerful cult leaders), absolving oneself of responsibility. But this AI is the one plot device the author uses to warp realities and give the main character multiple chances to make different choices; the presence of the AI is also used to wing a lot of the sciency bits without having to explain any of the technical elements of the world building which ultimately just feels shallow; and the use of the AI as dues ex machina multiple times blunts the possible emotional punches, ultimately leaving me very very dissatisfied towards the end.
So looks like I've gone on a huge pointless rant here. If you've read till here, thank you so much for your patience. And as for what I ultimately feel about this book, I liked it enough but definitely was not satisfied. Maybe it was my fault for having too many expectations. But I think the story could have been better if it was more than a standalone, so that all the themes the author wanted to could have been explore in depth across multiple books. Now it just feels surface level and not enough. However, at the end, I do have to commend Sena Bryer for the excellent narration of the audiobook which definitely made this story a better experience.