Fluent Forever

Finally got through it all. Has some good takeaways. My favorite is:
Fluency doesn't mean you know absolutely every word. It is the ability to carry a conversation at a reasonable pace with few pauses. Whether it be about German cars, Russian novels, or whatnot, it is a level different to each person. As a native speaker, we come in contact with 15000 to 35000 words by the age of twenty; the same standard is not realistic for a second language.

This was a perspective I needed earlier in life.

Quite repetitive and boring at times. But one great insight: Create your own (digital) flashcards with images you search for yourself. That will significantly aid in memorizing new words.

Super practical, super inspiring, super helpful. Even if I wasn't already living in a non-English speaking country, this book would make me both want to learn and feel capable of mastering a new language.

On the one hand, this seems like a pretty helpful book for language learning. The combination of the author's anecdotal evidence and research in memory and learning science supports the strategies presented. And being a bit of a language nerd myself (native or foreign), I found the concepts interesting. And might utilize some of them as I try, yet again, to remember how to speak French and learn other languages.

However, there is very little in this book that tackles motivation. I might get excited to try some of these tools. But I also have a host of other things I'm trying to tackle on the reg - reading, writing, pretty intense running/training - in addition to the whole 9-5 thing. And regardless of how fun the author claims language learning can be (and I don't doubt it!), it's still gonna take a long, long time to become fluent, and with tons of effort.

Not that I was supposing it would be easy, so I suppose that's not a genuine complaint. Mostly, I found the book repetitive, and though interesting and probably helpful, far more effort than I'll realistically be able to put into language-learning at this stage in my life. I got a bit bored just reading this, and ending up skimming the sections that I found unrealistic/unhelpful/about learning tools I'll never use.

I wish this book had been released when I was in school. The author, Gabriel Wyner, explains how language is learned and how we can twist the things our brains are good at in our favor.

In every chapter he introduces tricks that have allowed him to learn so many languages and the shocking thing is: I have never heard of 90% of them. Never.

This book blew my fucking mind and I can't recommend it highly enough to anyone that's interested in learning another language.

It would not be fair for me to assign a star rating to Fluent Forever without having honestly attempted to learn a language with its methods—I simply don't think that its methods would be particularly helpful to me given where I am in the language acquisition process.

Wyner is an engineer and an opera performer, not a linguist; in the Notes section he does a decent job of identifying the linguistic research upon which he bases his proposals, but his method should be taken with a grain of salt, in my opinion. The method is heavily flashcard-based and incorporates a spaced repetition system to work concepts into the learner's long-term memory. To his credit, Wyner does have a lot of very clever ideas about how to use flashcards to learn correct pronunciation, establish a basic vocabulary, and explore basic grammatical concepts, all while beginning to think in the target language. There is probably a great deal of merit to this approach for a language learner who is beginning from scratch.

Outside of his very detailed instructions regarding flashcards, most of Wyner's suggestions are a bit obvious. Yes, it's good to speak and write and get corrections from native speakers. Yes, watching familiar television programs in your target language can help with listening comprehension. Apart from the spaced repetition system, most intermediate–advanced learners won't glean much fresh insight. In one of the appendices, Wyner describes three “tracks” for flashcards, the lowest-intensity track (requiring the fewest cards) being the “Refresher” track for intermediate speakers. It is telling that he admits that many of his own card suggestions will be unnecessary for those who already speak at an intermediate level. His goal is evidently to help readers reach a baseline level of fluency, not an advanced or native-like level of fluency. (The book comes off as somewhat self-promotional too, as it frequently refers the reader to Wyner's website.)

If you are learning a language about which you have no prior knowledge, give Fluent Forever a shot. If you already have a good grasp on pronunciation, basic vocabulary, and basic grammatical constructions in your target language, then skip this book, download an SRS program like Anki, and get to work expanding your vocabulary. If you're still terribly curious about what Wyner has to say, borrow a library copy and skim. He does leave some specific suggestions for intermediate–advanced learners at the ends of some chapters, but those suggestions are not worth the price of the book.

Fluent Forever's greatest advantage is that it offers specific, actionable steps that language learners can take. If anyone is interested in a text that holds more scientific weight but lets the reader to decide how to apply the science to their learning, I would strongly recommend [b:Becoming Fluent: How Cognitive Science Can Help Adults Learn a Foreign Language|26176934|Becoming Fluent How Cognitive Science Can Help Adults Learn a Foreign Language|Roger J. Kreuz|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1440704673l/26176934.SX50.jpg|46142142].

I'm just knocking off books I didn't quite finish before they got auto returned on me. This is the flashcard guy!

great method for language learning

This book completely changed the way I view language and language learning. As someone attempting to regain fluency in my once-native Spanish, I found the approach of assigning pictures to foreign words rather than English translations to be extremely useful. While it is a time-consuming process initially, the payoff is immense and it saves a lot of struggle in the long run.

I'm currently applying these methods to my attempts at learning French. This is the one language learning book that I recommend to friends over and over again, I definitely recommend it to anyone who is eager to learn a language but unsure where to begin.

This book is the work of a connoisseur, an aficionado, a cognoscente. There are a lot of how-to books written by people whose knowledge hardly qualifies them to be giving advice. This is not the case with Fluent Forever. It is a best in class guide to picking up another language efficiently.

It's not a book of shortcuts, it's a book for the serious learner who is willing to invest time in the pursuit of polyglotism (is that a word?). I've been using it as a guide for my study of French for awhile and can definitely say that since starting to use the techniques in Fluent Forever, my study has become more directed, more fun and rewarding.