Thirteen Reasons Why

Okay, há contorvesias na minha opinião sobre este livro porque já o amei e já o detestei
Li o pela primeira vez quando a serie saiu (em 2017 se não me engano, tinha quase 13 anos), foi um fenómeno e fiquei curioso sobre isso. Na altura adorei, chorei com a morte da Hannah na ultima cassete e o capitulo do Clay até quando reli algures em agosto me fez chorar. O ponto é que a depressão da Hannah é muito banalizada e é muito água com açucar, entendem? Tipo (spoiler) “a Courtney fez me uma massagem nas costas e inventou rumores sobre mim, por esses rumores serem falsos e por ela ter inventado ela é uma pessima pessoa”. Também na altura em que odiava o livro achava (e ainda acho) que o livro põe muitos esteriotipos na cabeça do leitor, exatamente por todo o plot, alguém se matar e culpar 11 pessoas pela mesma sem se atribuir qualquer responsabilidade propria e sem fazer algo para o bem da sua saude. No lado bom, acho que trata bem os assuntos de privacidade (com o Tyler) e o Assedio/violaçao (com o Bryce).
Sobre o livro em si não tenho mais nada a dizer, são 3.8 que eu arredondo para 4 pela “nostalgia” que tive a reler no ano passado

There are some books that just open your eyes to the world, and as soon as you finish them you're not the same person. The gist of Thirteen Reasons why is that Hannah Baker committed suicide and decides to leave 13 audio tapes to describe what pulled her to kill herself. This leaves Clay in the dark. What could he possibly have done to lead her to his? As Hannah describes each event, Clay follows her story to different places in town, trying to piece together her story.
This powerful book opens the eyes of readers about the consequences of their actions and what they say to people. This is certainly a book every person should read in their lifetime.

Themes: Suicide, Sex, Love, Betrayal
Rating: 4.75/5

DNF ~ 10%

Deeply cutting and amazing voice. Would definitely recommend.

DNF at 60%.

Do not read this if you have any mental illnesses. I REPEAT: DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY MENTAL ILLNESSES. This story screams of “written by a neurotypical,” and most people I know who enjoy this book have no idea what extreme mental illness, depression, anxiety, suicidal tendencies, etc. look like. I'm lucky as hell I am not suicidal or severely depressed, but I have a good friend who is and this book fucked her up. And that doesn't even come close to the show.

The writing isn't bad. It's the idea that upsets so many (including MH Professionals). I don't think Asher intended to hurt anyone, and he's not a bad writer, but the idea is the epitome of “suicide can be a revenge act! Off yourself and everyone will be sorry they were mean to you!” - which sadly makes an impression on the impressionable (kids, young girls and boys in HS or MS).

Well written, but weak. The reasons the girl killed herself are a lot less than a lot of people deal with on a daily basis. And to make it into some torturous game where she has people listening to her story–why didn't she tell them when she was living? Why go through the planning and everything for this tragic sport? She borders on being a psychopath. She gets zero respect from me. The main character was likable–too likable. Overall, this is a decent book. It will hold your attention. However, when you really examine it, it's not a life-altering work, nor should it be.

It's a really nice, different and intresting book.
Definitely read this but don't if you are depressed

there are good, inoffensive ways of going about addressing the increased amounts of mental health issues and suicides amongst teens. this is not one of them.

i'm writing this review many years after reading this book, but i remember going into this knowing that i wasn't going to enjoy it. while that sounds really stupid of me, i still read it in the hopes that it was going to surprise me and have a story or a takeaway that hit home or really shined a light on some pressing issues today that lead to teen depression. let me tell you: i did not get that.

i feel bad saying all this, i do, especially since it's a story that i'm sure some people can relate to. but there is no reaction to the tapes or the girl's suicide that really round out the story and make it a lesson. i wanted there to be some sort of solidarity between the people she left behind, a movement that she creates through the tapes to prevent further suicides, a higher reason for her suicide besides just making people feel bad for the way they treated her. this book had potential to be so much more, but fell short, and it's utterly disappointing.

don't @ me about the tv series, which i will not touch, not even with a 500-meter long stick.

Summary: The novel centers on the post-mortem narrative that Hannah Baker has recorded for a select group of acquaintances to hear. Although Hannah’s story only surfaces after her death, the recordings retrospectively demonstrate the ways in which Hannah, over the course of a few years, developed from a relatively happy young girl to someone who committed suicide. The book is told through the eyes of Clay Jensen, one of the people for whom Hannah left a tape.

While this book is very sad, it hits in a way no other book can. I found myself enjoying it deeply. While I felt bad for Hannah, I found myself not liking her tape about Clay. Now that I've read the book, it saddens me how the show goes. It completely goes off it's rails.

Just dumpster fire, jr high me thought she was really deep for reading this

Was disappointed. Have mixed feelings about this book.Suicide and mental health are serious issues, and I'm glad there are books that address it. I can see how this would be a powerful book for teens. I understand how seemingly trivial things can snowball and weigh one down over time, but I felt like there was a lot missing somehow. And where were the parents? Other adults? 

Originally, I am not sure how exactly I stumbled across 13 Reasons Why, I just remember there was a lot of talk around the show coming out and after deciding to give it a shot, I gotta say, I wasn't all that disappointed. I thought the show was done really well and then I saw the book on sale at the store and decided to give it a shot even though Young Adult is not really my thing when it comes to book genres. In this instance I would prefer the show to the book, just because the show was more profound and seemed to dig into all these issues much deeper, whereas the book merely touched the surface. Still, the book was not bad and I don't regret reading it one bit.

To begin with, 13 Reasons Why is about a girl in high school, named Hannah Baker, who commits suicide after a lot of things transpire to push her over the edge and before she dies she records a series of audiotapes explaining why she did it and who was involved in making her feel like she had no other way out. I think the plot is very unique and I haven't really read anything like it before so it definitely stands out and the fact that it's about such a tough but important issue makes it all the more significant and worth a read. I think the high school me would have benefited from this book back in the day, when I had a tough time and life felt like it would never get better. However, being a lot older then I was back than, I kind of found that I wanted more from the book and I really wanted the issues to have been looked into even deeper but I guess that's where the YA aspect of it comes into play.

Further on, the characterization is good but just not enough. It seems that the book is rather short and even though I love a quick read, I really think the author could have dug deeper into all the flawed and sinful characters of this book. Again, it really is my fault because I am obviously not the targeted audience here and I usually tend to find Young Adult novels too primitive and shallow for my liking. I prefer my books to really.....go there...all the way there and in that aspect this book falls flat.

Finally, the writing style was like a breath of fresh air and it really fit with how quick of a read this really was. I didn't have any issues understanding what was happening and didn't find that I had to go back and reread any sections whatsoever. But with it being YA that was expected really. As with everything else in this book, it wasn't bad by any means, it just wasn't amazing.

In conclusion, I would recommend this to people who aren't triggered very easily because this book contains a lot of disturbing triggers, so it's not for the faint of heart. If you don't get triggered easily, I think the people who would enjoy this book the most would be young adults, teenagers. Those are also the people whom it would benefit the most, in my opinion. It could definitely help opening up ways into tough conversations that are not had enough.

I decided to re-read this again after reading it in 2014 (maybe 2015?) and I hated it, again.

I love the show..controversial but I think the show did well in showing how raw and painful life is.

If you are having feelings of suicide - find a better book.


Here's what I liked... The audiobook narration.

At first I thought this was an interesting premise, despite the dark tone to it...that ends up being an empty story.

We have it viewed through clay (who has no reason to be on the list????) Who likes her and is sympathetic to her. At first I thought he was trying to have some self deniability or him being a nice guy(tm) - nah! He is nice and has no reason to listen to these tapes.

So, these set of tapes have some people who don't need to be on them? It's just a self fulfilling prophecy at some point, passing the blame on to everyone but her. Hannah doesn't really have a great perspective about other peoples lives - such as clay.. Who left her alone ,after having a wonderful moment , because she yelled at him who didn't do anything wrong now has to listen to these tapes. One of her ex-friends was black out drunk at a party - raped - as her date let him do it and she was hiding in the closet. could you imagine, you may have no memory of that night...or remember that night knowing more circumstances and hannah is STILL like poor me your one of the reasons i'm dead - you still gave her this tape? how heartless. How about that girl who hit a stop sign after taking hannah home after her events at a party, hannah freaked out at her, she was probably already freaked out. she's a teenager who got into an accident, stayed out late at a party, has no money to pay to fix this problem...she probably has to tell the parents who we don't know what the relationship with them is THEN finds out later there was another accident that in a stretch was responsible in a way for (It IS a stretch, like it's still not her fault.) now i'm sure she thinks about often....why is she on the tape?

Don't get me wrong some people deserve to be called out....but NOTHING comes of this. They don't get any jail time or what they deserve. nothing. You never hear anything else from the other characters.

This ultimately didn't work for me for several other reasons. This book is not a graceful way to tackle the subject of suicide. And Hannah was such an unlikable and annoying character, it was hard to be sympathetic even when looking to be. Even kinda glorifies the idea with going off with a bang...although not realizing that you didn't do anything to go off with a bang. You didn't confront anyone, attempt to bring some to justice, reach out for your self, and not realizing the destruction you'll leave in your wake to other people that also have lives you don't understand. In this point- this book might make a good talking point.

What could make this better? Maybe another book in the series with reactions from the other characters on the tapes? You never hear from them ever. I'd like their reactions to listening to the tapes- would speak more volumes then Clay. It would broaden Hannah as a character...a victim, a bully, a hero. Her tapes could be used to serve justice.

Roman intéressant et qui plonge très rapidement le lecteur dans l'intrigue. Petit reproche sur la fin un peu bâclée à mes yeux. Le personnage de Skye est assez peu travaillé et le parallèle dessiné avec Hannah par Clay est trop grossier. D'un coup il réalise qu'elle présente des signes similaires à Hannah avant son suicide, bof on y croit moyen, l'auteur aurait pu amener cette intrigue de manière plus subtile ; la durée (une nuit) a sûrement dû le contraindre à écrire ainsi.

Really liked it. It was a good book and I would highly recommend it to others.

no matter how you look at it this was a really bad book and it's insulting that it was made into a tv series to be consumed by easily-manipulated suicidal teenagers

It called my attention that the main character is death since the beginning. Interesting and creepy at the same time. I have to admit that many of the “reasons” that Hannah gave didn't make me understand why she killed herself, but at the same time this fact make me think about her difficult situation and sympathize with her. Each one of these reasons is a little bit more added to the weight that was crushing her down. It's a good book with a strong message: you should take responsibility for your actions and understand how small acts can affect someone else.

The book leaves many unanswered questions, mostly because the author want it; but there's one that really, really bothers me: If the people that was mentioned on the tapes were responsible for her death, then why is Clay one of them? When it's the time of Clay to hear talk Hannah about him, she said Clay, honey; your name does not belong on this. The poor boy was anxious about what Hannah would say about him... and it was for nothing.

The last scene was a relief for the tension that the tapes created. I like it a lot. I don't think it's the best book about suicide or depression, but the message is explicit.

I know a depressed person when I saw one, coz I've been there. Hannah was so deppressed, because of the effects of the rumours & the lists, how people around her speculate about her life without even knowing her well.

Hannah didn't get help nor talked about what really happenened, she blamed everyone else instead. BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT DEPRESSED PERSON DID. They'd blamed everyone else for every little thing went wrong in their life.

For those who shows initial symtomps of depression, go get help, I'm sure now few hotlines for that, share what you're feeling. For those who see that symtomps, don't walk away, help her/him to talk about their problems, make them realize that life is worth living for.

3.8/5

Entretenido, fácil de leer, con un buen mensaje (Aunque el autor no termina de convencerme en cuanto a lo extremista que fue Hanna...) Un final muy “REALLY?” Y ni siquiera sé si decir que eso es en el buen sentido de la palabra... 

No es el mejor libro que he leído, siento que le faltaron cosas, pero sí lo recomiendo para pasar un día entretenido en una lectura medio adictiva y corta, o un fin de semana, depende de que tan rápido leas...

I caved and started watching the show after hearing about all of the backlash, and then realized that I had to read the book too. It's one of those easy reads I could devour in a few hours, and I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about it. I loved the format and how it was told through a set of tapes, with the main character's thoughts interspersed throughout as he listened to them. The subject matter, though, is problematic. I do appreciate that the author based this on the story his relative told him about her motivations for attempting suicide. In terms of anti-bullying, I think this book is really effective. It really makes you think about how you treat other people and realize that even the smallest things you do to them can really affect them. It enforces that you should be kind and helpful to everyone and really noticing the warning signs when someone isn't okay.
At the same time though, I do feel how problematic this is. Like, it's problematic to blame others for someone's suicide. Especially when she is the one blaming them and basically saying, “You killed me.” Don't get me wrong, they definitely did do some wrong things or ignored her warning signs, but it just is another thing entirely to blame them for her death. I know in the end she says she forgives them, but, I don't know, the whole thing just made me really uncomfortable. I'm still conflicted and I just wish they had acknowledged the mental health side of this more than they did.
All in all, I don't entirely know how to feel about this book but it was unique and well-written and I enjoyed reading it. Regardless of how problematic is, maybe it's at least a good thing that the author raises this conversation in the first place.

I had such expectations that just weren't met. I wasn't a huge fan of the writing style and the characters just weren't for me. I'm excited to see the Netflix adaptation but pretty bummed I didn't enjoy this book.